FDNY Deputy Chief Vincent Dunn’s definition of “acceptable loss of life”

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FDNY veteran Vincent Dunn has forgotten more fires than you’ll ever see. He has published articles, guidelines and books describing things you study for your promotional exam. The man eats, breathes and keeps fire in his life. So what happens when he posts something online about acceptable loss of life at “vacant building fires”? WYE takes notice.

Dunn recently posted about firefighters risking their lives at “vacant” structures involved in fire and that the deaths of squatters inside is acceptable because, in words he posted online elsewhere, “he probably started the fire, F*** him.” Dunn has since posted more descriptive versions of this opinion but when this hit the fire webs it, well, ignited a firestorm of comments! (Insert Fozzie Bear meme here).

This week Justin, a slightly less experienced fire fighter of 30 years and our law enforcement expert Jason discuss when we risk a lot to save a lot and what we think of the extremes of Dunn’s comments and what he was probably getting at with a burst of firehouse language. And, is that acceptable for someone of his stature or should we be glad this conversation has taken on a life of its own?

This week we debate:

  • If cancel culture has reached Vincent Dunn’s Fire Battlespace
  • Why Firefighters and Officers should be reading Daniel Kahneman’s Thinking Fast & Slow
  • If a tax payer needs to be involved for fire EMS or Police to get involved
  • What happened to Justin’s studio headphones

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